THE TORN VEIL

2/3/2011

Mark 15:38
The veil of the temple was torn in two

Let’s go on a little study this morning. Over the centuries many misconceptions have been published about the relationship between the Hebrew and the Apostolic Scriptures. From dispensationalism to replacement theology man has done all he could to explain the Bible away from its simple terms. With the help of a ‘couple’ of Scriptures’, I will attempt this morning to put it all back in its proper perspective (as if it were so easy)!

When the Children of Israel constructed the Tabernacle, God commanded that a veil (a thick curtain) should be made to separate the Holy of Holies from the holy place (Exodus 26:33). This veil later found its place in the Temple and we remember that at the time that Yeshua died this veil was torn in two, from top to bottom (Mark 15:38). In the Talmud the Temple veil is spoken of as the ‘tunic of God’. Its ripping at the time of the death of Messiah speaks of the tradition of tearing one’s clothes as a sign of mourning. God tore His ‘tunic’ when Yeshua died.

For no apparent valid reason, this event is usually interpreted as a sign that the Temple system was now defunct and obsolete, but there is a deeper and far more authentic meaning to this symbolism, one that can actually be proof-texted with Scripture. In the letter written to the Messianic Jews (Hebrews) we are told that this veil represents the body of Messiah (Hebrews 10:19-20) and looking at the plan of the Tabernacle/Temple, we see the whole perspective. The road to the Holy of Holies which represent the Presence of God still goes through the altar of offering, the holy place, and then through ripped curtain which as we have now learned is Yeshua’s torn body. This concept works in total synchronicity with this following conversation between Yeshua and a rich young man, "Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?" If you would enter life, keep the commandments." He said to him, "Which ones?" And Yeshua said, "You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself." The young man said to him, "All these I have kept. What do I still lack?" Yeshua said to him, "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me" (Recipe for eternal life from the mouth of the Master Himself: Commandments + follow Him) (Matthew 19:16-21).

Just preceding the triumphant victorious return of Yeshua as the legitimate King of the world (Revelations 19), the devil will try in a last ditch desperate attempt to go against those whom he fears the most. Here is what we are told: Then the dragon became furious with the woman (according to the context the woman is Israel who had given birth to Yeshua) and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Yeshua (Revelation 12:17).

Whereas I am not looking forward to sufferings and persecutions, I do hope to be a part of the crowd whom the devil fears with the courage of those who were tortured, refusing to accept release, so that they might rise again to a better life (Hebrews 11:35).

26 Comments

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Jeanne Sorell

4/22/2024 06:43:23 am

Just a few rapture verses:Rev 3.10, Isa 26.20;Zephaniah 2.3 Luke 21.36... but you need to read more 2 Thessalonians 3 17 ... and read it all knowing that some false teachers had written these people as though they were Paul telling them the tribulation was upon them (becasue of Nero's persecutions) and that they missed the rapture. You bet these people were shook up. But Paul clarifies that the rapture has not happened yet and that they were going through little tribulations- even unto death. The actual tribulation is so much worse.. .To be sure there has not been one sigle generation of Christians that some heinously bloody butchering has not occurred because of their faith. Millions are being butchered in the middle east and Africa. Reinhard Bonnke led millions to their salvation but a new generation of muslims are going town to town martyring them in their churches. No nations say a word. or does a thing to stop it Only Christian missionaries are getting the word out to the rest of the world. I have always said lobbying congress isn't going to help nearly as much as helping people to escape the deadly persecution they face. .Get them out of the nations they are in. BUT many of us foresee such persecutions coming here now. I am watching many "Christians" becoming pro hamas- knowing it's about genocide too!!!!! It turns my stomach.The Hamas will have no sympathies for those who aren't muslims supporting them when the time comes. God is separating the sheep from the goats. Those who reject the truth of God's WORD are the ones I see turning so murderously ugly and antisemitic. So far all I have seen fall under this strong delusion first literally reject and hate prophesy even though we are told not to despise it, then out of their mouths they reject Bible verses which refutes their claims. Psalm 90 - the ones who fall by our sides in the last days are literally those who once walked with us side by side in agreement. The great falling away is occurring. And at the same time these branches are being broken off I see the natural branches as Paul states taking quite readily to being regrafted back in. More Jews are turning to Christ's redemption now than ever before. There is a very real reason the very first of the dead sea scrolls were being transported into Israel simultaneously as Israel was becoming a nation once again. God has a plan. When we see our friends falling away into apostasy Moses who wrote 10 Psalms for us in the Last Days to read and have hope instructs us to persevere. to keep going! We are near to the end. Chin up Keep praying persevere. Hold on to what you have.

David

1/18/2025 04:12:11 pm

Not one thing you said is true. The prophesies in the tenach and in revelation are prophesies of the christian religion and what they would do to the jewish people and have done for 2000 years. You act like millions of christians are suffering for the word of G-d, no, no they arent. They are the ones inflicting the suffering because no G-d is in them. Your religion is a pagan false religion that have ZERO to do with anything G-d and anything in the bible. You christians ARE the ones the bible is referring to when it says those that cant see, cant hear or understand.
ALL of your beliefs and practices are pagan and not founded in biblical history and ALL of your beliefs are in direct opposition to G-d.
Your religion has mercilisly persecuted G-ds holy people for 2000 years.
Ending with the holocaust. And your religions obsession with the rapture. LOL... Thats all I hear. I hear the rapture more than I anything else from you people. No one is going anywhere. You people have the nerve to push G-d out of the bible and create a false g-d in His place and then push His chosen people out of the way and through clever justification of that by saying the jews rejected the messiah and killed him... According to your new test writings, WRONG AGAIN!!!! Yet you people demand and force on people that YOU are the ones who are chosen and will be spared while G-ds true chosen will be left behind to suffer because they rejected kariste!
You filthy rotten human being!

Wake up! And not to hebrew roots either. THAT is even worse. I cant hit the keys on my keyboard hard enough I am so angry with you people and the misery you people create all the time.

The christian religion is why the end times are happening.

Veronica M

10/14/2025 12:32:51 am

I agree! God bless!

JC Sorell

10/14/2025 03:46:12 am

Peter 3:3-4
Knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.”

Jude 1:18 ESV
They said to you, “In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions.”
I never set a date for this year! The LORD WILL COME just as the Bible says.
There are reports of Christians all throughout Nigeria being shot up by terrorists just about every week. Their churches are burnt to the ground. In Sudan I have met the survivors of entire families almost completely being wiped out. Somalians were being imported to do the job. Who is finding this? I speak the truth. BUT people want to dig a hole in the sand and place their heads in it to ignore the facts that things in this world are getting uglier by the minute. The very first Christians in history are Jewish believers. Some of the New Testament was written before 180 AD and some of it was mentioned by the earliest of the church fathers who were taught by the apostles -the first students of the apostles in their own writing. If one reads those manuscripts written in Hebrew 1 Thessalonians when translated directly from the Hebrew reads of a pre-trib rapture that occurs on a fall feast day..Y'all can do as you please. Y'all have such a stiff necked attitutde that the Natsal will come and pass you by and you'll be faced to endure the terrible things coming upon thi9s earth BUT for the faithful who believe in the truth of God's WORD Messiah will remove them from "ALL THOSE THINGS COMING UPON THE EARTH". The Dead Sea Scrolls written by the faithful Jewish Zadok priests who left the second Temple to preserve the library -The calendar and the Commentary leaves us currently in the last 50 years of the age of Grace. The Millennium WILL occur by 2075. During the next 50 years there will be war prophesied settting up the time of Jacobs Trouble by changing the geo-political landscaping which is already occurring. There will be the natsal of the church. There will be the 7 full years of judgement and then the rescue iof Israel from the armalis. And the millennium does not start immediately because Messiah WILL clean up everything associated with sin and idolatry. Then and only then He will bring the real and true first Temple as described by Ezekiel down from heaven. He will rule and reign at that time. I do not have the day or the hour for any events. I just know there is writings that tells us it WILL all occur within the next 50 years. The Brit Chadashah tells us in the original Hebrew that it wasa written in that the Natsal , Hapazo, Rapturo - literally the rapture will occur during a fall feast day and the Time of Jacob's Trouble will start on a fall feast day too. And the all conquering King Messiah will also come on a fall feast day. the date setting is so vague and yet it's soon. Don't lie to your self and claim I set this year and this time of high holy Day as the time I NEVER DID THAT AND NEVER WILL. Go scoff at someone else who's going to worry about your misread childish attitude. I know time will prove what I have said is true.

David Arnold

5/11/2012 02:40:02 pm

Are there any jewish references to the veil being torn? I would think that since the temple was the seat of all things jewish it would have been a profound event.

rockie

3/15/2013 04:49:10 am

Good question: Jewish references?

MALKA

9/8/2021 05:27:22 pm

Yes there is reference in the Talmud of earthquakes, strange happenings in the temple they describe it on the day of death of Rebbe Yehoshua/Yeshua. Yoma 3: EVIDENCE OF THE TEMPLE VEIL BEING TORN, THE SCARLET THREAD NO LONGER TURNED WHITE AFTER THE DEATH OF YESHUA (ALL RECORDED IN THE TALMUD). From the time after Rebbe Yehoshua’s death the scarlet cord that was dipped in blood on Yom Kippur would always turn white during the Temple service. When the Yehudim/Jews observed the next Yom Kippur after Passover (Yeshua died at Passover) the scarlet cord did NOT turn White and stayed RED (Recorded in Talmud). Although many may assume the tearing of the temple curtain to be a detail included in the account of Yeshua’s death accounts written by Matthew, Mark, and Luke. The Talmud Tractate Yoma 6:3 also records that there were strange occurances on that day of his death, the unusual events reported in the temple are dated to forty years before the temple was destroyed-that is, around 30 CE-the time of Yeshua’s death” The records in the Talmud say that it was the temple gates that swung open rather than the curtain tearing, But the fact that this was accompanied by an earthquake recorded in the Talmud makes matches the descriptions of events in Matthew, Mark & Luke.

4/22/2024 06:16:16 am

Do you have those Talmud quote references? I'd love to read them. Was it the Babylonian Talmud or the Jerusalem Talmud or both?

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3/16/2013 01:45:25 am

I'm looking for some proof that this event really happened as temple worship seems to have gone on as usual.

Monte Lund link

4/26/2020 07:59:10 am

https://www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/48/48-2/48-2-pp301-316_JETS.pdf

Prof link

2/2/2014 11:04:38 pm

Great, almost a year has past and not one single persone ever came back to give any proof from Jewish texts or history that the veil has indeed rented. As I thought, only christian texts written by unknown people of which there is no orginals to proof the validity of what is written.

4/26/2020 08:01:19 am

Here's a good paper on this issue: https://www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/48/48-2/48-2-pp301-316_JETS.pdf

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3/25/2014 01:31:36 pm

This is a pretty good article that speaks to the events surrounding Jesus' death, using only non - Christian text. Some say Josepheus writes about the veil being torn, and others say he didn't. Some say he was a liar and easily swayed by authority, others say he is the end all and be all of history at the time. So like all things, freewill allows you to choose what you believe. Just remember what Jesus said to Thomas...blessed are those who don't see, and yet still believe. Error, as we sometimes must, on the side of faith. Because, what's the alternative really? A life lived without God and risking eternity in darkness...no thanks!

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3/25/2014 01:33:14 pm

www.etsjets.org is a pretty good article that speaks to the events surrounding Jesus' death, using only non - Christian text. Some say Josepheus writes about the veil being torn, and others say he didn't. Some say he was a liar and easily swayed by authority, others say he is the end all and be all of history at the time. So like all things, freewill allows you to choose what you believe. Just remember what Jesus said to Thomas...blessed are those who don't see, and yet still believe. Error, as we sometimes must, on the side of faith. Because, what's the alternative really? A life lived without God and risking eternity in darkness...no thanks!

Cary Walker

4/21/2019 03:11:46 pm

"Josephus also identifies a phenomenon that corresponds to one mentioned in rabbinic sources. He reports that the massive eastern gate of the inner court of the temple was seen to open on its own about the sixth hour of the night.52 Again, we note that this event is not too far removed conceptually from the idea of a temple doorway being opened through the tearing of a curtain."
https://www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/48/48-2/48-2-pp301-316_JETS.pdf

https://lexundria.com/j_bj/6.293

Jack H link

6/19/2021 07:30:20 pm

RE non-Christian sources: Jerusalem Talmud, Yoma 6:3:

"Forty years before the destruction of the Temple [in 70 AD] the western light [of the Menorah] went out…" This 'western' light was actually at the center -- called 'western' for rabbinical reasons. Lore had it that this central lamp would stay lit past reasonable expectation -- a regular one-lamp Hanukkah effect.

"...the crimson thread remained crimson..." It was tied to the Temple door on Yom Kippur, representing the scapegoat. Until now it had always 'miraculously' (or chemically) turned white after three days, showing forgiveness -- note Is 1:18, scarlet sins turned white as snow. In his series on the Book of Numbers, Chuck Missler gives the meaning of only one of the many names in the long genealogies. I forget. But it meant the product of a tree, or insect, or something, that would turn from red to white in about three days.

"...and the lot [Lev 16:8, selecting which scapegoat would be] for the Lord always came up in the [unpropitious] left hand. They would close the gates of the Temple by night and get up in the morning and find them wide open. Said Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai, 'O Temple, why do you frighten us? We know that you will end up destroyed. For it has been said, Open your doors, O Lebanon [Temple], that the fire may devour your cedars! [Zech 11:1]'"

We say Israel spent 40 years in the wilderness -- but it was 38. Yoma 6 says here that signs occurred 40 years before the destruction of the Temple -- but, perhaps, it was 38 (if 32 AD).

4/22/2024 06:13:57 am

The Essenes believe the crucifixion date was 32 AD and many of them were living witnesses in 32 AD They based their calculations of the crucifixion on the most ancient of calendars - the one God gave to Adam and passed down through Enoch and Noah and Moses and was removed from the Temple during the Hasmonean era when the Essenes (the Zadok priesthood) left the Temple to escape deadly persecution- the destruction of the Temple library and calendar. They first went to Egypt and then went back to Israel when it became safe again but stayed in the Qumran- teaching the way (the one Paul talks about) The Essenes knew Messiah suffering son of Joseph would come and die on a cursed tree in 32 AD by the prophesies and the Onahs. I can debunk the year 33AD thinking. The geological empirical evidence of the Christ quake must give a ten year window of time framework. And the 33 Ad theory is impossible. We k now because there was a lunar eclipse. Peter mentions this lunar eclipse when quoting Joel on the feast of Pentecost as something they all eye-witnessed. There is no way the 33 AD lunar eclipse was anything much to eye witness from Jerusalem. The area of totality was over the oceans (check NASA's website) But the 32AD was directly over Jerusalem. Everyone saw it shortly after Christ was buried, it heralded in the first day of unleavened bread. Just as the Pesach pierced striped matzah was being placed into a linen cloth and hidden Christ was wrapped in linen and placed within the Tomb. I learned from astrophysics class from a professor who was good friends with a Jewish rabbi professor that lunar eclipses are a warning to the nation of Israel (usually of a season of war) and and solar eclipses are a warning to the Gentile nations... The USA has been warned twice now with two crossing solar eclipses in 2017-2024. Our president never should have thrown Israel under the bus! He's removed the blessings of Genesis 12 over us all. This nation is soon to be held accountable for it's many sins from slavery to abortion. The lunar eclipse in 32AD is verifiable through NASA's website. to be visible to peoples in the bronze age- who did not have binoculars telescopes TV's internet or any other aid by which to see the lunar eclipse over anywhere but Jerusalem. The fact it is a lunar eclipse on a Fest Day is most important. If you know about the blood moons and solar eclipses all on feast days in 2014-2025 you can also verify through NASA's website that there was a similar tetrad of blood moons and solar eclipses in 32-32 AD It's as though since the formation of the universe our God has placed parentheses around an almost 2000 year span of time. The Essenes also recorded the ages of man. The final age of mankind - the age of Grace- is coming to a close. The very end of that age comes up next year (2025) I suspect on the New Year we may see some highly prophetic events occurring although many of the prophetic wars are happening right now. By New Year I believe it is the sacred New Year of Nissan 1 not Rosh HaShannah which is the civil new year in the fall. The tribulation starts on Yom Kippur and ends on the feast of Tabernacles which has ALWAYS been known for millennia. The church, as the bride of Christ will be married to Messiah on Rosh HaShannah- in heaven after having made herself ready in heaven- just before the end of the tribulation and Psalm 45 is sung at our wedding. I wish I knew the melody. I wouldn't wish the Time of Jacobs Trouble upon anyone but I am extremely excited for our time with Christ in the place He has prepared for us John 14.2-. He promised He would come and get us to be with Him always and this is not a post tribulational scenario..... Many blessings....

Veronica

10/14/2025 12:40:05 am

Wondering how you feel about your date setting now that is almost 2026 and none of what you wrote about happened?

Daina W

1/4/2022 09:37:39 am

Less about who or if, but how and why did blood sacrifice for sins, um.., seem to "fall out of favor" as a practice for maintaining a right standing before God? What changed God's mind (haha) about the necessity for blood atonement for sin that apparently made men alright with setting that aside? What practice is in place now for the Jew?

Colleen E

4/21/2022 02:25:53 pm

The sacrifice for sins "Fell out of favor" because it didn't work anymore... When Jesus died, God left the temple, and the Jewish people witnessed this. It says it in that "Something Awry in the Temple" paper. Also, the Jewish people needed to sacrifice a Red Heiffer without blemish to cover sins... there hasn't been a red heiffer without blemish born since the temple stood 2000 years ago. God didn't change His mind, He paid for ALL our sins so there is no need for any more sacrifice. I hope this helps!

11/21/2022 01:00:29 am

Now there's five Red Heifers in Israel.

4/22/2024 05:40:23 am

It wasn't that the sacrifice for sins fell out of grace. Animal sacrifices always only ever provided a "covering" for sins so God could deal with mankind and they would not be destroyed. Hebrews 10 1-14. The "ultimate" sacrifice was the spilling of pure sinless innocent blood" but since all mankind sinned ever since the fall of mankind there was no human person born who could be that sacrifice. God in His utmost love for His creations once again (remember Abraham and Isaac) provided His own sacrifice. Only God is sinless but He is spirit and eternal and could not die. So God did the unthinkable and begot a Son who like Himself was sinless and yet He was fully human and could shed blood and die. Jesus Himself said He came and was born into this world for this purpose.He overcame all sin and death and is coming soon to set up His kingdom. The ashes of the red heifer existed back in Christ's day. The priests could not enter the Temple without the ashes of the red heifer to cleanse and purify. The ashes of that era were hidden and lost with the Temple destruction in 70 AD. They haven't needed any sacrifices for sin or even a red heifer unless a Temple is to come about. Only when the Temple is standing does the Jew need to make a sacrifice for their sins. The red heifer was always only for Temple use. The priests sacrificed it outside the camp (outside of Jerusalem). BTW there are now four such heirfers living in Jerusalem. They were born in Texas and raised fully Kosher for such a sacrifice. Many expected the first sacrifice to be this Pesach but with all the world in upheaval, and we know from prophesy the Armalis (antichrist) makes way for the Temple. It is appropriate not to make the sacrifice. Muslims are threatening people going to visit the heifers because they have strage ideas about their use. Also only one is actually 3 years old and I believe they desire to have red heifers in constant supply so having one as breeding stock or more is prudent. Many of the current day priesthood would prefer using heifers born in the land of Israel. The other 3 heifers are not quite old enough to be a sacrifice yet. The red heifer sacrifice is for ritual cleansing. If the priests are exposed to dead bodies they must purify- this I kn ow for fact. I have also heard that the bitter waters given to a woman accused of adultery in the O.T. is ashes of the red heifer mixed with the Living water of the Gihon.- but I am skeptical about the waters of the Gihon being used because when that rule was established to know the adulterer from the innocent was established the people were not living in Jerusalem yet- although I may be wrong on the date. The Gihon is a siphon spring. Living waters is simply flowing waters (such as a baptismal river).But the Gihon was a special Living water spring. This nis the waters that were drawn for the water and wine libation done in the Temple during Tabernacles . Drawn in great procession by the Temple priests. This is the water the lame man waited for the angel to stir it (then the priests would draw from it) and then the first one into the waters became healed. But the lame man never made it in time, and Jesus healed him- pick up your mat and walk. And so we know because of the angel stirring the water that the healing miracle occurred on Tabernacles. It's too bad the Gihon dried up a couple decades ago. It had been been flowing for many years. The Temple institute says no worries they have plenty of barrels.... ah but will the angel stir dead water in a barrel? The true final sacrifice for sins has ultimately been made.

Roger Jay Elie

7/6/2022 09:38:43 am

Is there any mention of the vail being torn in any other place then the Bible?

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